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Should the deceased retain rights and freedoms?

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Post by Soviet 20th January 2012, 2:51 am

So, I recently got a piece of mail asking me to donate my organs after death. I'm actually really not comfortable with this, not for any particular reason, it's just weird. I'm just wondering why human beings even have to consent or not consent to the these types of forms? I don't want to consent in life, but it's sort of hard to be angry about them not listening after I died, isn't it?

Do people here believe that you retain some sort of rights over your body after you die? Do you believe a human should be able to choose how his funeral is carried out, how he is disposed of (cremation, burial), how he will be remembered/honoured (tombstone quotes or otherwise)? Or, do you believe that the dead, the disposal of the dead, and the organs and tissues within should become property and a matter of healthcare organizations?
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Post by Comrade Vince 20th January 2012, 6:57 am

Corpses are corpses, the sooner we stop acting like a bunch of decomposing flesh is somehow sacred, the sooner we can use them for scientific pursuits in order to lower the ratio in which we make new ones.

That being said: People should still be proper gentlemen when dissecting/experimenting on them.

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But I do understand why it weirds you out, but, I think that has to do with facing your own mortality rather than whether you save someone with a bone marrow transplant or not.
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Post by Insertnamehere 20th January 2012, 11:22 am

If i were to sign for my organs to be donated I feel like if anything ever happened and I was on the verge of death I would be left to die on purpose to use my organs for scientific research.

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Post by IvanGray 20th January 2012, 11:37 am

I'm already signed up as an organ donor- People are a renewable resource, and organs are in short supply. Just recycle the dead.
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Post by Soviet 20th January 2012, 11:49 am

IvanGray wrote:I'm already signed up as an organ donor- People are a renewable resource, and organs are in short supply. Just recycle the dead.

The planet recycles the living. Seems to me like we just get in the way. But, I'm not a moral nihilist, of course people who need organs should be helped, it just creeps me out. Still, I might think about signing the forms. Does anybody here think I shouldn't sign the forms? Should I do it for the greater good?
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Post by Comrade Vince 20th January 2012, 5:12 pm

Soviet wrote:
IvanGray wrote:I'm already signed up as an organ donor- People are a renewable resource, and organs are in short supply. Just recycle the dead.

The planet recycles the living. Seems to me like we just get in the way. But, I'm not a moral nihilist, of course people who need organs should be helped, it just creeps me out. Still, I might think about signing the forms. Does anybody here think I shouldn't sign the forms? Should I do it for the greater good?

Suppose you or someone you're close to was in a car accident and they needed an organ.

Someone might get into that situation, and if they're lucky: You got shot between the eyes in a robbery-turned-homicide earlier that day.

I mean, any good socialist would sign those papers.
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Post by Soviet 21st January 2012, 2:20 am

Comrade Vince wrote:I mean, any good socialist would sign those papers.

I'll sign them, but I'm going to keep them as part of my will, rather than just mail them off to the government. I'd feel a little safer, getting into radically Left political matters.
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Post by Comrade Vince 21st January 2012, 2:34 am

Soviet wrote:
Comrade Vince wrote:I mean, any good socialist would sign those papers.

I'll sign them, but I'm going to keep them as part of my will, rather than just mail them off to the government. I'd feel a little safer, getting into radically Left political matters.

Right, because the government kidnaps political dissenters and harvest their organs...

Dude, take a final toke and open up a window, would you?
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